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K Zildjian cymbals are known for their dark, warm sound that harkens back to the original K cymbals developed by Zildjian in 19th Century. Turkey. We use. All later Avedis Zildjian stamps have dot dot dash dash at the bottom of the Image: Zilco TRADE MARK stamp in WFL Catalog .. This seems to be the case in his original essay, and to have lasted until at least Avedis Zildjian info by year annotated with information and links: Avedis catalog lists Bop Flange Hats and Be-Bop cymbals 18″ to 26″ (Cymbal Book , p) AB change to pin lathing on K Cons; 15, 17, 19 crashes added.

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By April the terminology has shifted on a bit, and we zldjian Rock as a Ride cymbal option. The next stamp s is slightly smaller.

As Zeb said, Ks were made in Istanbul by K. The fifth one is so recent it isn’t explicitly named on that page.

We won’t get to them until later on in the piece, although you can go and check out Pinksterboer’s The Cymbal Book for more information. I don’t yet know if there was any die stamp difference between the two eras or between the two different types of Zilco by AZCO cymbals. There may not be a ” stamp” as such. It isn’t like that.

But ink stamps giving model and or weight appear to have been an Avedis Zildjian innovation which was around from the beginning. If you have one, please get in touch.

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I’ve come across two more AZCO stamps which were also used, and there may be more. A Zildjian Laser Trademark Image: The top of the Ottoman is present on all examples of this stamp I’ve seen so far.

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The assignment of years is not my work. I’ve never seen the original sample sizes or the raw data. At least in 20″ and 22″ cymbals this seems to hold.

Zildjian White Paper No. This is Exhibit H in Bill’s original article.

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Solid Script Zildjian The Zildjian becomes solid rather than hollow font, and now it is found on both the top and the bottom of the cymbal. If you want your life to be simple, then stay with “First” and “Second”, or better yet just call them catzlogo Trans Stamps”.

If anybody has any IE, IF cymbals and can tell me if they have the cursive ink style, this might help us pin down the year. This site is set up so that you can send or post to a forum a link to a particular photo and description.

I would say that this site is best avoided unless you really know what you are doing.

There are still ways to tell the true Hollow Block from a 60s stamp which mimics this. In the Large Stamp without the three dots the E is directly under the H. The general anatomy of the stamp is that there is an upper section which is stylized Ottoman text often referred to as Arabic, or “the squiggly bits”and a lower section in English. Since I started looking more closely I’ve identified more than 5 variations of these Pre Trans stamps, and what I’ve found overturns the whole simple notion of “First” versus “Second”.

I’m sure i’ll be corrected if I’m wrong! Read what the Zildjian Sound Lab had to say about crash cymbals here for example: Pre Trans stamps till the later s The Pre Trans stamps are the earliest of the Avedis Zildjian trademark stamps. The English portion changes in detail over time, but some changes can be subtle changes of alignment and relative location.

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Large stamp showing the flat center of the bell Above you can see the flat portion of the bell. I suspect but can’t be certain that in part it happened because of over generalizing from too few cymbal examples.

Pick a drum catalog from and go to the cymbal section; model listings will be there. Hollow Ink Logo is very different to the Hollow Block. See the Hammering Page for examples.

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A gallery of the Avedis Trademark and Ink Logo eras Scroll down through this gallery and you move through the zildjiam eras of Avedis Zildjian cymbals from the beginning to the current day. Here it is in action reporting In general, how visible the hammering is depends on photograph quality and “dramatic” lighting, and how much dirt or patina there is. They are, but what lets us tell them apart without measuring is the pattern of breaks or quirks. First here are examples of each with a ruler.

Most of the zilsjian changes have to do with the changes in alignment and location.

Unless Bill comes forward with this information I propose to suspend any use of it. Zenjian-Ludwig stamp Alejian for Slingerland s Image: I haven’t yet been able to determine if they represent an occasional pressing flaw, low spots on that particular die, that particular die starting to wear out, or something else. It shares this one attribute with the s small stamp. Hollow Ink Zildjian Logo Image:

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